Miscarriage Chance & Abortion

Miscarriage Chance & Abortion


This Mod adds a Chance for a Miscarriage & adds an Option for Abortion (I’m sorry)

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Miscarriage Chance
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With this Mod it is possible for pregnant Sims to wake up with Cramps and Pain or when they are really tired and hungry (see more Info below).

If that happens you need to go to the Hospital with them (via the Phone, you can go alone or with your Signifcant Other)

There is still a small chance that your Sims will come Home and the Baby is ok but mostly they will come back with very Sad News. Both Outcomes will affect the whole Household.

There are 3 Versions of  Miscarriage Chances available. Only install one!

Version 1 – Very Low (Sad Buff in 2 Days and 7 Days available. Only install one)

1st Trimester

  • Teen/Young Adult 1,5 %
  • Adult 2 %
  • Elder 3,5 %

2nd Trimester

  • Teen/Young Adult 0,5 %
  • Adult 1 %
  • Elder 2,5 %

3rd Trimester

  • Teen/Young Adult 0,125 %
  • Adult 0,25 %
  • Elder 1,5 %

Version 2 – Low (Sad Buff in 2 Days and 7 Days available. Only install one)

1st Trimester

  • Teen/Young Adult 3 %
  • Adult 4 %
  • Elder 7 %

2nd Trimester

  • Teen/Young Adult 1 %
  • Adult 2 %
  • Elder 5 %

3rd Trimester

  • Teen/Young Adult 0,25 %
  • Adult 0,5 %
  • Elder 3 %

Version 3 – Middle (Sad Buff in 2 Days and 7 Days available. Only install one)

1st Trimester

  • Teen/Young Adult 6 %
  • Adult 8 %
  • Elder 14 %

2nd Trimester

  • Teen/Young Adult 2 %
  • Adult 4 %
  • Elder 10 %

3rd Trimester

  • Teen/Young Adult 0,5 %
  • Adult 1 %
  • Elder 6 %

Version 4 – High (Sad Buff in 2 Days and 7 Days available. Only install one)

1st Trimester

  • Teen/Young Adult 9 %
  • Adult 12 %
  • Elder 21 %

2nd Trimester

  • Teen/Young Adult 3 %
  • Adult 6 %
  • Elder 15 %

3rd Trimester

  • Teen/Young Adult 0,75 %
  • Adult 1,5 %
  • Elder 9 %

The following Buffs can trigger the Miscarriage Chances as well and they will also multiplier the % Chances!

Triggering Buffs with a Base Chance Multiplier x2

  • Buff_Motives_Energy_Tired
  • Buff_Motives_Hunger_Hungry
  • buff_Motives_Hunger_Hungry_PlantSims
  • buff_Motives_Vampire_Thirst_Parched

Triggering Buffs with a Base Chance Multiplier x5

  • Buff_Motives_Energy_Exhausted
  • Buff_Motives_Hunger_Starving
  • buff_Motives_Hunger_Starving_PlantSims
  • buff_Motives_Vampire_Thirst_IrresistibleThirst

Other Information:

  • After a Miscarriage the Miscarriage Chance is blocked for 7 Days (unless you delete all Buffs)

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Miscarriage ChanceOptional Death & Infertility Chance
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With this Addons it is possible for Sims who just had a Miscarriage to die or become infertile.

Dying Chance (Sad Buff in 2 Days and 7 Days available. Only install one)

  • Teen/Young Adult 1 %
  • Adult 2 %
  • Elder 3 %

Infertility Chance

  • Teen/Young Adult 1 %
  • Adult 2 %
  • Elder 3 %

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Abortion Option
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With this Option you can send your pregnant Sims to the Hospital to get an Abortion! An Abortion costs 1.000$.

The Abortion Interaction is only available when your Sim is in 1st and 2nd Trimester.

Your Sims will get a “Feels Guilty” Buff or a “Feels Relieved” Buff if the have the “Hates Children” Trait.

There are two Buff Versions available. A 2 Days Version and a 7 Days Version. Only install One!

(Thanks TURBODRIVER for the Permission to make this even though it is already a Part of WickedWhims )

 

Both the Miscarriage Chance and the Abortion Option are available as Standalone Mods as well inside the Downloadable ZIP File!

 

Languages available: English (default), German, French and Italian

Credit:
Italian Translation by Elisa
French Translation by Yuu

Miscarriage Chance & Abortion

This mod/code/work is protected by the Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International Creative Commons License.

Latest Version: 15.11.2017

 

135 thoughts on “Miscarriage Chance & Abortion

  1. hey I really like this mod(weird to said that but it adds some realism) from seeing the screenshots the sad buff is 2 days would you maybe consider an 7 day version? I think miscarriage is something that would be more then 2 days

  2. I may add a longer Version. I just have to make sure not to add to many Versions because updating Mods is already a hell lot of work^^

  3. I just want to say that you are AWESOME!! This is a sad topic but I think it adds realism to the game. I’ve been through a miscarriage before and somehow having my Sim experience the same helps me cope.

    **Side note** Do you consider suggestions for different mods?? I’ve been looking for a mod that makes Teen pregnancy reactions for realistic for parents. It drives me crazy when the parents are excited that their teenage is pregnant lol

    1. Hi there and thank you 😉

      Whether i do suggested Mods depends on if i need/would use them in my Game. So far i don’t use Pregnancy for Teens in my Game. So for now i don’t think i will do such a Mod since my To Do List is already way too long^^ Sry

      1. Ok that’s cool. Regarding the miscarriage mod, is it just a random chance that it could happen or if the mom is stressed or uncomfortable does that increase the chances of miscarriage?

        1. Only the Age and Trimester Stage have different chances like written in the description. Since i had to trigger it with a common interaction, adding Moods etc did not make much sense.

  4. I have a question when you say this, “You can “Try for Baby” and can get Pregnant again but you probably have to restart the Game for that to work properly.”, do you mean right after the miscarriage? Would we have to wait 7 days for it to work properly again or is this anytime after the miscarriage because restarting the game every time can be a bugger lol

    Anyway thanks so much for making this Mod! I was debating adding it to my game because I’ve personally been through a miscarriage and it can be touchy, but I do use MC Command for me realistic play in my game and decided to give it a try to add more realism to my game. I really appreciate all you do with your mods! Keep up the wonderful work! and Thanks again 🙂

    1. Hi & thx.

      I mean right after the miscarriage. If you want your Sim to get Pregnant in the same Gaming Session then you would need to reload your Game.

    1. So far the only thing that happens is that the pain won’t go away. I will maybe add a timer some time where in the end the sim goes autonom to the hopsital or maybe dies.

  5. I know someone asked this same question, but I still don’t understand what you mean by restarting the game to make pregnancies work properly.

    If my sim has a miscarriage and waits for the two day buff to disappear, will she be able to have another pregnancy as normal? As someone else said, it would be annoying to have to restart the game any time there’s a miscarriage :/

    1. It means if you want them to get pregnant in the same “Gaming Session” again then you need to restart the Game first. I will try to get rid of all Pregnancy Codes but i’m totally new to scripting so i don’t now how successful i will be. I will try it out the next days.

      1. Thanks, MsSam! I hope you can get it to work. It’s difficult for me to restart my game when I have so much CC on a slow laptop lol

        I love your mods, so I’m hoping I can use this one, too. It would be a great realism addition to my game.

        1. This whole scripting is still a bunch of ???? for me^^ So i recommend to use MC Commands Terminate Pregnancy to clear all rest coding of the Pregnancy if you want to get pregnant in the same Session.

  6. I really love this mod, i find it gives a bit more realism plus it keeps it interesting for ultra-control freaks like me, but uh..

    Has anyone’s SPOUSE died from the miscarriage?

    My female sim woke up cramping, sent her to the hospital, came back, husband totally distraught and sad, next thing I know my young adult pro athlete dies of “overexertion”.

    Now, I’ve always felt that there really needs to be a third emotional death, but well 😀 Not how I had it in mind.

    Has this happened to someone else?

    It’s the only recent Mod I got, so I’m guessing it’s from this or some combination with some other one.

  7. worm:
    Has anyone’s SPOUSE died from the miscarriage?

    So far none of my Sims died but i had a miscarriage once.
    If you use the Death Chance Addon then yes your Sims can die after a miscarriage.

    1. Ah ok, well yes I have the Death Chance Addon, but I expected the pregnant sim who actually physically experienced the miscarriage to die, not the husband. But thanks for clearing it up!

      1. Ah no, only the Sim who had the miscarriage should die not the Partner. Will check later if/why that could happen…

  8. I downloaded the mod and followed the instructions by only downloading one. The mod is not working can someone help please?

    1. If you downloaded and extracted the Package and ts4script Files only one Folder deep inside your Mod Folder the Mod should work fine. Be aware this Mod is a small chance for a pregnant Sims to get a Miscarriage when they wake up. It is not something you visible see ingame all the time. The new Interaction on Phones is only visible if your Sim actual has the Pain/Cramps Buff.

  9. My sim got the notification that she was having the cramping and should go to the hospital, but there’s no option on the phone to go to the hospital. Is there a way to fix this?

    1. Did you install the package & ts4script File into your Mod Folder? And only one Folder Deep? That sounds like either the ts4script is not installed or deeper than one Folder.

  10. It doesn’t work, my sim wasn’t wake up cramping. I installed version 4, it has package file and script file I installed them both. I don’t khow why it doesn’t work.

    1. Sims don’t get a Miscarriage every Time they wake up. It is only a small Chance that they may will get the hidden Buff. The % Chances are listed in the description.

  11. doesn’t work for me. My sim had a Miscarriage and after that her first child go older and I changed his cloths in the cas. After that my sim showed the same signs like when she was pregnant again so I saved the game and restarted it and she’s pregnant again.

    1. Did you restart the Game in between Miscarriage and CAS? I guess this has to do with the Coding which i mentioned in the “Important Information”. As long as i don’t know how to script clean every rest of the Pregnancy i suggest after a Miscarriage to “clean” the Sim with MC Command or the Pregnancy Mega Mod.

  12. I am running on the latest Sims 4 patch and using V2 (Low) of the miscarriage chance along with the Low version of the chance to die after delivery and my pregnant sim always wakes up from her sleep with morning sickness. She is carrying twins according to MCCC. I made her go back to sleep and wake up, rinse and repeat, etc. and she would wake up each time with the morning sickness moodlet. Is this normal?

    1. The “Morning Sickness” Buff has nothing to do with this Mod. This Mod gives a “Cramps & Pain” Buff.

      1. I know that. It seems she just had a terrible pregnancy cause she continued to wake up sick meanwhile another pregnant sim woke up fine. Sorry for bothering you, I have never encountered such rough pregnancy before haha. ( I even checked to make sure there wasn’t a mod conflict and yours was the only pregnancy mod I had downloaded)

  13. I had the same issue as mentioned above. My sim had a miscarriage and after a day, she started showing pregnancy symptoms again even though she didn´t have any wohoo in between. I was clearly the actual pregnancy which went on after the miscarriage.
    It was the only miscarriage I had so far so I hope it will not happen again. I do not use MC so that´s no option for me to avoid this bug.

    1. I believe the problem is a part of your loot_miscarriage_reset tuning. You set the pregnancy commodity to minimum instead of removing it.
      If you change the code to

      False
      16640

      it should fix the problem. I didn´t try it yet, but I hope the info is still helpful. 🙂

  14. Thanks for this mod, I’ve been looking for something like this for a while!
    Are you working on translations? I could provide a german one if you want. 😉

    Are you also taking “requests” (I guess)? There are two things that could be interesting as some kind of expansion:

    1. There was a mod for “Sims 3” that worked with probabilities for miscarriages. Sims who woohooed while being pregnant, did sports (jogging,… not sure what sports pregnant sims can actually do in “Sims 4”) or didn’t eat/sleep enough had a higher chance of losing their baby/babies and the more they did, the higher the chance got.

    2. Abortion mod: Works similar to yours except that the “go to hospital” option is always available to pregnant sims (maybe restrict it to the 1st/2nd trimester?). The chance for a “miscarriage” would be 100%, of course, but you could basically keep the same popup messages/moodlets. If possible, maybe just add a “fee”.

    1. Hi, German Translation is normally included by default since i’m german too 😉 Unless i forgot it of course^^

      1. I always try to use as less Xml Files as possible to overwrite so all my Mods are compatible together. So far in this i only used one of the wake up files. I may will add later some Files like the Buffs which you get when you are really Hungry or Tired. I don’t know when i will look into that. But i will put it on my To Do List

      2. This is already a Part a Wicked Whims if you have that Mod?

      1. Ah.

        1. I see – looking forward to the buffs then!

        2. I know, the problem is that that’s a big mod that also adds a lot of other stuff that I’m not really interested in. Plus, I’m not sure if it’s even compatible with MC Command Center, since that one also adds a lot and has its own “Woohoo” module. That’s why I’ve been looking for a stand alone mod just for abortion but there doesn’t seem to be one – at least, apart from your “chance” one here.

        1. WW is compatible with MCC but i know WW is not for everyone. I will ask Turbo if he would be ok if i make an Abortion Mod which would be close to his or if he would make his as a sperated Mod instead.

          1. Oh, I didn’t know that. But yes, adding a mod that big for just the abortion option is a bit overkill.
            Thank you very much!

  15. Thank you SO much for this mod, i´ve been waiting for ages! I am trying the high option (bc im playing the history challenge and it adds more realism)
    Again: thank you, this is incredible

  16. Hello! I don’t know if this is a problem, per say, but something I noticed.

    My sim went to get an abortion at the clinic and came back very sad. I tried calling the Sadness Hotline to lower the moodlet, but the Sadness Hotline did nothing to lower the sadness buff. Crying under the sheets did nothing as well. Is this by design? (I have not gotten miscarriage or death so I am not sure).

    1. Never thought of those Interactions but now that i do, i’m not sure if i let them affect these Buffs^^ hmm…

      1. The buffs added with this mod aren´t set as sad buffs in the code. That´s why the Sims affected can´t do anything to shorten the sad moodlets. I have changed this in my personal version a while ago. If you´re unsure about how it works and want to add it, you could send me a PM via MTS.

  17. I know I’ve installed the mod correctly…so my sim has the “pain and cramps” buff but the option on the phone to go to the hospital just won’t appear! Is there anything I can do? Does this mod require any expansion packs to work? I also just installed the October 17 update.

    1. Did you install the package & ts4script File together and only one Folder deep? If you did, check if you have a Mod Conflict going on and test this Mod without any other Mod/CC inside the Mod Folder

      1. I did…it may be a mod conflict but it seems that my mod folder is a bit glitched at the moment (I have MCCC and some CC installed but it doesn’t show up) so I’ll see if I can poke around and find a solution.

      2. I forgot to say that I figured it out….I’m on Mac and my folders are a bit scrambled so turns out I was using the wrong folder. Yikes. Totally my fault.

    1. The Cramps&Pain Buff only has a small Chance to appear at all. You can’t manually trigger them unless you use a add buff cheat.

  18. Hi, if you’re looking for a translator for the Danish part, I’d be happy to help! Don’t know if the mod is translated yet, since my game is English.

    Let me know!

  19. I pretty sure u can bypass restarting the game if you have the mc command center by terminating the pregnancy there but I like your mod cause it adds emotions to abortion

  20. I had a question about the abortion part of this. I have it in my mods folder (not buried in a folder at all), and my sim does not get the option to go get an abortion. I used her phone the way it shows in the screenshot you have, but there is no option for it.

    I have both the .package and the .ts4script files in the mods folder (only one version, though).

    Does it have to occur at a certain time in the pregnancy? Or am I missing something else?

    Thanks for your help!

    1. You are right, i did not add the Information that the Abortion Interaction is only available when your Sim is in 1st and 2nd Trimester. Will add it now.

  21. My sim has got cramps and it says that i should go too the hospital, but I cannot find where I can find the option?

    1. On the Phone in the Travel Menu.

      If it is not there then there are two Options.
      1) Installation gone wrong. The package & ts4script File need to be together and only one Folder deep inside your Mods Folder. Script Mods must be enabled in the Game Options.
      2) You could have a Mod Conflict. To check this (if your Sim still has the Buff) put every other Mod/CC out of your Mod Folder start your Game and check if you then get the Option on the Phone.

  22. I SO love this! But I have a question; does this mod conflict with wickedwhims? Because I play with that too sometimes and now I had a sim that got the cramps, went to the hospital via the phone and the message said she lost her baby and she is sad. But now I just found out she is still pregnant! She was still in her first trimester… Was I supposed to restart my game or something?

    1. It should not conflict with WW. I use it myself. Did you use the newest Version? I tuned that a bit more there. I just testet the Very Low Version and it worked so far. Search Sim Info showed Pregnancy:No, so everything must be cleaned like it should. The Sim does a invisible Interaction right after coming back to terminate the Pregnancy. Maybe something interrupted this or prevented it.

      After Pets & every necessary Mod Update i will clean/fine tune a few of my Mods. I will see if i can integrate the terminate of the Pregnancy in the Rabbithole Interaction.

  23. Hello, I added this to my mods folder i was looking for such mod for ages so thank you so much! but when i opened it in my game i wasn’t given the option to abort the baby i tried on 1 and 2 trimester i have MC Command Center And MC Woohoo is there a possibility that this is conflicting

    1. Should not conflict but i can’t say for sure. I use MCCC but only a few Modules. To check if it is a Mod Conflict you could try loading the Mod without any other Mod/CC in you Mod Folder.

      Just to make sure you did install the package & ts4script File only one Folder deep right?

      1. Thank you fixed now works perfectly somehow the pregnancy buff disappeared from my sims so it didn’t recognize that the sims was pregnant brilliant mod thank you so so so much adds that extra realism to the game which i have wanted since i bought the game !!

  24. I’ve tried downloading several times and I got the pack and the script and it didn’t do anything but mess up my game. Is there anything that I did wrong?

    1. How did it mess up your Game?
      Which Files did you install?

      There are a few Options why a Mod does not work right. If it messes up your Game be sure to check Number 2!
      1) Installation gone wrong. The package & ts4script File need to be together and only one Folder deep inside your Mods Folder. Script Mods must be enabled in the Game Options.
      2) You could have a Mod Conflict. To check this (if your Sim still has the Buff) put every other Mod/CC out of your Mod Folder start your Game and check if you then get the Option on the Phone.

      1. Thanks also, I’m unable to find the package and script for the abortion clinic. Maybe the full name of it would help or it comes with a package EX: V4 miscarriage abortion package

        1. Final comment, Does the “cramps and pain” come for everyone then say if they lost the baby or not or, it comes at “specific” times.

          1. The Cramp & Pain Buff get only added to pregnant Sims and the possible Chances when it gets added are listet in the Description. It is only the beginning of a possible Miscarriage there is still a Chance your Sim come back from the Hospital without losing the Child.

        2. The “LittleMsSam_MiscarriageAbortion….” Package&ts4script is the Version which includes both the Miscarriage Chance and the Abortion! If you just want one of those two you need to install the Files inside the Standalone Folders.

  25. Not entirely sure what I’m doing wrong, but this mod doesn’t seem to wanna play nice with my game at all. Even after I took out all the other custom content and mods, it still keeps redirecting me to the pick a world screen whenever I select a household to play with. I installed it like every other mod, and every other mod of yours I installed worked fine. I guess I’ll give it another try after the pets expansion pack is out, when I have to sort everything out again anyway and all the mods are updated and stuff. It seems like a great mod to have! I must be doing something wrong (although I wouldn’t know what, installing mods isn’t new to me) or the mod just really really doesn’t like me. xD

    1. Which Files did you install? I have to update all of my Mods which will take some time but after that i could check what happens in my Game. Maybe one version is messed up here.

      1. It was the very low 7 days one. I’ll just give the updated version another try as soon as it’s out. Take your time though, I get that you will have plenty to do after this update, lol. ^^

      1. I can only offer the same i offered below: The only thing could offer is to check your savegame myself? If you want you could upload your savegame somewhere and send me the link via contact mail and i will check it in your savegame? (Let me know which World and Household)

        1. This also occured in two of my saves but the problem persisted after I took your mod out so I´m not sure whether this is really caused by your mod.
          I´ll nevertheless send you my save file via MTS in case it helps.

  26. Hi! Will you adapted the mod to the new upgrate?

    Yes, I’m a stupid italian simmer, my english is so bad, but I hope you will understannd what I’m asking ahahahahah

  27. Hello!
    Not to be “that person”, but how much time do you estimate that you need to update your mods?
    I found your mods yesterday before the patch and was in the middle of trying to trigger a miscarriage and I’m eager to try all of them out 😀

  28. Hello! I have tried the mod, both with my other CC/Mods and without, and the phone-options does not show up?! This mod seems awesome, so I am kind of sad I can’t get it to work 🙁

  29. @All
    This Mod was most likely broken by the Patch because so far after updating over 50 of my Mods i think 90% have been broken by the Patch. I will probably Update the Rest of my Mods tomorrow.

  30. Hi I put LittleMsSam_MiscarriageV2Low2Days.package and LittleMsSam_MiscarriageV2Low2Days.ts4script from LittleMsSam_MiscarriageAbortion07112017 file into my mod folder and it causes game not to load (when I want to load parcel game is trying to load and return me into city selection.) I have WickedWhims 3.2.4.120.2 and MCCC3.9.4. Is there some conflict?or I,m doing something wrong? LittleMsSam_UltrasoundScan.package&ts4script are not causing any problem

    1. Hi, i did check starting the Game & Household with the Version you’re using. I could load the Household without getting thrown back into World View. I also use WW & MCCC both newest Versions. Did you check without both Mods (any other Mod/CC)?

        1. Did two more tests with the LittleMsSam_MiscarriageV2Low2Days Version. One time with only WW & MCCC and one time with only this Mod inside my Mod Folder. Both Times i could load my Household without Problems. I also tried another savegame with another Household again without any Problems.
          Did you try loading custom Lots you downloaded from gallery or somewhere else?
          Try out to make a new Game + new Household and see if it happens there too?

          Or try redownloading & reinstalling? Maybe something went wrong while installing?

                1. Probably with other Versions too right? It really is difficult to say why it’s not working for you. Did you try a complete new Game & Household?

                    1. The only thing could offer is to check your savegame myself? If you want you could upload your savegame somewhere and send me the link via contact mail and i will check it in your savegame? (Let me know which World and Household)

    2. Oh well… I have had reinstalled game and it didn’t help Simgle LittleMsSam_MiscarriageV2Low2Days.package&ts4script in mod folder are causing parcel notto load. Maybe my savegame is corrupt somehow. I shell wat till Future update of this mod. Hope you find some solution or maybe this mod will be part of WW as Turbodriver is updaitng his mod into more realistic one.

      1. I already wrote you via email. Can you send me the Files you used of my Mod? I will then check if there is any difference between mine and the one you used.

  31. I just found this mod and wanted to say thank you! I’ve been looking for a miscarriage mod ever since TS4 was released and finally found one that goes above and beyond what I wanted myself. Thanks for your hard work.

  32. @Francesca I checked Kubas Savegame and i could load it without Problems. So even if i can’t check yours the chance is high that i can open yours too. If you are not able to send me the save because you don’t know how , let me know and i will try to explain it to you.

      1. No, since i could open it without Problems and even give the pregnant Sim the Miscarriage Buff it has nothing to do with my Mod. Maybe the Patch messed something weird up which is not easy to figure out.

        You could use https://m.mediafire.com/signup/free/email to send me your save. Only one of the “slot” files. Unfortunaley you need to register to upload files there. Here is a good Tut how to use Mediafire https://www.wikihow.com/Upload-Files-on-to-Mediafire

        If you got any lastException.txt in your SIms 4 Folder you can send me this before via Contact Mail. Maybe that will clear something up.

  33. Nothing, nothing, nothing to do!
    Reinstalling game, reinstalling mod, always terrible T_T
    But ultrasound scand mod work perfectly!

    I want this too T_T

  34. I think the update broke this mod. “Cramps and pain” works perfectly but the script part no longer works. Let me know if you can fix it, please! I really miss it. 🙁

    1. Did you use the Version i just uploaded? Which Version exactly? I just checked the Very Low M&A 2 and 7 Day Versions and both times when i get the Buff i could go to the Hospital.

      1. I’ll get the newest version, thanks! Didn’t notice you uploaded because I’m incredibly stupid.

        I love this mod, it’s just not idiot-compatible. 😛

  35. Hey so, I had a bit of a problem earlier on. I’m testing through all of my (updated) mods post-pet catastrophe. My games Up to date, so are all your mods. I had the miscarriageabortion High2Days installed along with optional death. forced the cramping (well, food&sleep deprived my sims till it popped up), went to the hospital with cramps, she came back belly-less, baby-less, however perfectly happy. No moodlets suggesting she just lost her baby, or even the wrong one. Tried it again, same problem. Ended up switching out for the only miscarriage versions, that worked just fine. Idk if it’s just my dumb luck or if its something, but thought I’d share.

  36. I encountered a bug maybe? I have one female sim who is in her 3rd trimester and one sim (sim 2) who just found she was pregnant. Well I sent sim 2 off to get an abortion and when she came back my first sim was just getting out of the shower and was no longer pregnant as well. I checked with MCCC and it still was showing sim 2 as pregnant with 1 boy even though she had the moodlet you get after having an abortion. I quit to the main menu and ended up going back in and clearing the sim 2’s pregnancy with MCCC. But I also notice that when my sims have a miscarriage that I still have to clear the pregnancy with MCCC. The only mods I use that handle pregnancy xmls are yours, mccc and wicked whims. And I made sure that I re-downloaded the current version of your mod too so I am not sure what could be causing the issue.

    1. I’m not sure either. Never had two Sims on one Lot while trying it. Would have to try it out.
      The Pregnancy itself gets cleaned via two steps. The optical cleaning so your Sim comes back without the Belly and then a “command”. At a miscarriage your Sim comes back and then does a “Command” which cleans the Pregnancy Data. Same happens at Abortion but there the Command happens right at the beginning. Maybe something went wrong there which prevented the Command from happening. I will check both again this weekend but i checked after the Update and it did work then.

      EDIT: Checked the M&A VeryLow 2 Days Version. 2 pregnant Sims. One send of for Abortion one left at home. Sim 1 came back from Abortion not being pregnant anymore. Sim 2 was still pregnant. Which Version did you use? I will check if it works there too then.

      1. My apologies, was recovering from surgery. I am using the M&A Low 2 Days Version. I haven’t been able to trigger it again so I am assuming maybe it had something to do with Sim 1 getting out of the shower just as Sim 2 was coming back from getting an abortion at least that’s the only logical explanation I can think of.

  37. Hi so I’m using Version 4 of this mod and my sim keeps having “false alarms.” Like I can’t seem to trigger a miscarriage. I’m wondering what’s the probability of the baby being fine or the sim miscarrying after going to the hospital?

    1. With false alarm you mean you get the Pain Buff, go to the Hospital but the Sim comes back where the Baby “survived”? The Chance that they keep the Baby was not that high setted. I’m currently at work but i will check that later but i will check later today if something is messed up in Version 4.

        1. Alright i checked all Version 4 Files. In all Versions the Chance to actual lose the Child is set between 85% (YA+A) and 95% (Elder). So the Chance is pretty high. Do you get the Happy Buff as well?

          1. Yes, I do. My sim also has the fertility trait, so that might have something to do with it. I’m not sure. I’ll try with a different sim and see if it works. It might just be that my sim is really lucky. Lol XD

    1. No, if your sim is pregnant and starves and/or exhausted, then there is a chance that you will trigger the miscarriage. If that happens, then you will automatically get the buff that your pregnant sim has cramping and is in pain, so they need to go to the hospital. In order to go to the hospital, just select “go to hospital” on your phone after getting the cramps and pain buff. After that, they just automatically go to the hospital. You can’t go with them, which is why you don’t need to put a hospital in the world.

      1. That’s right for the Miscarriage Part. The Abortion Option is always available via the Phone as long as your Sim is in 1st and 2nd Trimester. Your Sim will then go to a “Rabbithole” and come back after some Time. No actual Hospital needed in both cases.

  38. I downloaded thia earlier today and so far it was working fine, but once she had the baby I tried to have her go out to eat but it just kicks me to the world screen. So I went back to the main menu without saving before she had the baby and the issue is still there I can’t even load the household it just kicks me to the world screen. This wasn’t happening untill I install this mod. Do you know what could be the problem?

      1. Havent deleted it yet, all I did was exit the whole game and go back in and it worked. But I havent tries to take her anywhere yet. I’m not at home currently so I can’t tell if it is still have the problem when I take them out. Ill let you know when I can if that is ok.

    1. I was having this problem too, but only after the installation of the Cats and Dogs expansion pack, before that I didn’t have this problem. Trying to travel or go anywhere kicks me to the world screen. When I tried to load that lot it did the same. In addition to this, when I tried to adopt a pet the pet lady arrived to drop the pet off but just stood on the edge of the property and would not move or do anything. My own sims also had trouble using the beds or fridges.

      When I uninstalled this mod all those problems vanished. I wonder if there is just something incompatible with some new Cats and Dogs coding?

        1. I think it’s the current version. I updated it as soon as it became updated for the expansion. I don’t know for certain if it actually was this mod or not, my conclusion was only because once removed I stopped having the problems.

          Also it may not be the expansion pack it doesn’t like, maybe there is another mod that i’m using, when combined with the expansion pack, isn’t compatible with this mod. I’m not knowledgeable enough to know the exact cause. 🙁 I just know I don’t have the problems anymore since I removed this mod.

          I used the process of elimination to figure out which mod was causing the issue by removing them all and inserting one at a time into my mods folder and playing the game. This was the mod it narrowed down to in the end.

          1. With Version i mean which package File. Did you try it out with only this Mod inside your Mod Folder and no other Mod or CC? And of course always delete your localthumbcache File when adding/deleting Mods.

  39. Ok, so I went back and loaded the game it worked fine. But when it happened the first time she had almost had a miscarriage also, so I wanna go back in and recreate the situation and see if it only happens if they have almost or have had a miscarriage.

  40. Just, WOW! I am fairly positive you and Bakie are the best Sims 4 moders! Simply amazing. Do you think you would be able to create a new category to this mod for family oriented sims to keep trying for a baby despite one of them being infertile, like the sims do not know, so the option to try is still there resulting in 90 -100% pregnancies being miscarriages and when pregnancies fail have the sims be sad together for several days (10+) and also sad when they see any kid/baby items decorating a space?

    1. Something like this is not planed at the moment, sry. I use the little free time i have to concentrate on Mods that i would like to actually use in my Game. If i even have time to play^^

  41. The miscarriage option doesnt work for me. I installed the mod and the abortions work but not miscarriages . What am I doing wrong ?

    1. It’s a chance it can happen when your pregnant sim wakes up. Having your pregnant sim be starving or exhausted also raises that chance. It also depends on what version you are using. Version 4 is an 85% chance of it happening. Maybe download that version, test it on your sim and if she miscarries then you know there isn’t a mod conflicting.

      1. What Amanda said 😉 But the Highest Version does not have a 85% Chance. It’s max. 21%. The Chances are listet in the Description.

  42. I love this Mod, though I have a concern about the abortion aspect of it. I think it is unrealistic that you have sims feel so guilty after choosing to get an abortion done. It also implies you think that women who get abortions should feel shame for doing so and I doubt you feel that way.

    I like how you have it set that sims with the trait “Hates Children” will be happy after getting an abortion. Maybe consider adjusting the mod so that only Sims with certain traits such as “Family Oriented” will feel guilty. As for every other sim you should just have them feel uncomfortable or a bit of relief for a few hours rather than +10 sad for 2 days. If you need help writing the moodlets, I can run some suggestions by you!

    1. That depends what you want to have ingame? Low Change? High Chance? Standalone or the Miscarriage & Abortion Mod?

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